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Learning Japanese, blogging and how not to be perfect

Posted on 07 Jan 2009 by Chris
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This is another rant along the lines of Learning Japanese, avoiding the burnout and keeping it fun. One of my more popular posts. Maybe I should burnout and rant more often…

I definitely take after by father when it comes to work and creating things. My dad has the nickname in our family of “Spirit-Level Pete”. Every time he does some DIY around the house he uses a spirit level to align everything correctly. Others would just hammer nails into wood and be happy. He also puts his all into his work and pretty much anything else he does. My Dad does the best possible job he can and he’s my inspiration, but perfectionism can be a burden.

It’s good because it’s what drives me to be better at what I do, but at the same time it holds me back because I feel my work needs to be perfect before being seen by others. I’m slowly learning that you don’t have to have something perfect before throwing it in front of people. I’m applying this not just to blogging but to everything else, such as JPop Japan and learning to speak Japanese. I still hadn’t broken the “what if I say it wrong?” doubts which kept me from using the Japanese I know.

So I’ve decided to take a more “do it and see” approach to everything, including blogging. I’m not going to brainstorm, write, and double check, re-write, re-brainstorm, triple-check and publish an article. If I think of an article idea I’ll write it, review it and publish it. I can update it and add to it at a later date if needed. Take this post for example. I wrote this last night. Reviewed it once this morning and published it.

My perfectionism also affects my Japanese learning. I thought I needed to learn the kanji first. That’s what alljapaneseallthetime.com suggests, and that’s the gist I got from other bloggers and forums. For my situation, and to be honest, for anyone learning Japanese, kanji is not the first thing you should be learning. Sure, you should learn it, but give it time, plenty of time. Say, 10 years or so.

The best thing you can do is to learn to speak Japanese and listen to Japanese people. Not in Japan? Get Skype. There’s plenty of Japanese people looking for language exchange. Alternatively, and I think probably easier to do is to sign up at eduFire. This is a freakin’ awesome resource and you’d be a fool to miss it.

Personally, I don’t need to use eduFire because the resource is here with me in Japan. I’m surrounded by Japanese all the time. However if I was back in the UK I would be using all of these great online tools such as eduFire and iKnow! My girlfriend can speak English and we could easily just speak English all the time, but she knows I want to learn Japanese. So she throws me in at the deep end now and again and only speaks to me in Japanese. Also, as I said in my previous rant I’m trying my best to just say the first Japanese response that comes to mind. More often than not it’s the right response.

I had an interview yesterday that really cemented this whole thing for me. I was introduced to the staff within the company and I could hardly communicate with them beyond “Nice to meet you”. Not great. I could’ve said a bit more at least, but I wasn’t 100% sure I was correct. I should’ve seized the moment and got the most out of it. Never mind, we live and learn. Next time I’ll be more prepared and more open to giving it a try. I just hope I can get some work with this company, they seem to be doing great things.

Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah. You have comments enabled on your blog, right? Good, so when you have an article idea, write it up, take the jump and publish it. Write Japanese even. Anything. Just post it and see what the feedback is. Ignore the trolls, but listen to the comments and apply the feedback to your next post. Soon you’ll be posting regularly and it might even be perfect, or it might be a random mess that seems to attract attention. At least that’s what I’m going to try in 2009.

Photos by unloveable, modowd and trussmonkey

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Comments
  • The majority of my posts are, as you can tell, written in 1 go, rather hastily and posted with little care as to making it "perfect" ... the only thing i do later is fix spelling mistakes cause they annoy me.

    I agree with the 'have a go' approach no matter what the subject is.

    It is hard to use Japanese at work though for fear of embarrassment and also need to be productive. I'm not here to learn Japanese nor does my boss pay me to learn it, i'm here to do a job in the most efficient means possible, which with most Japanese colleagues speaking English, means working in English.
  • Great thoughts - I really think the greatest difference between adults and children is the fear of being wrong and obsession with being right.

    For learning Japanese it's the fear of saying the wrong thing or speaking incorrectly, listening and misunderstanding, reading and not knowing a word or kanji, writing with incorrect stroke order.

    The sooner you can accept not being perfect, the easier it is to learn and the more enjoyable the process.

    btw, I'd never heard the term Spirit Level before. I checked out the wikipedia link - I've always known those as just 'levels' or bubble levels. Dangit! I thought I knew English...
  • Nice points. Part of the fun of learning a new language is making mistakes! You find this more and more as you get better and can look back and laugh about your mishaps. Maybe the same could be said of blog posts...
  • Great post Chris, and really good comments as well so far!

    I used to spend a lot of time on writing posts too, but now I spend between 10-40 minutes on a normal post (it varies depending on what source I have for information, how long it takes to find a fitting picture and stuff like that, or the length of the post obviously). I usually just write the post, proofread it and then publish it.

    Perfect is good, but making mistakes is even better since you learn from them. When you keep trying to make something perfect you don't really learn a lot, it'll always take you pretty long to finish. If you do it faster you'll probably make mistakes, but you won't make them twice (hopefully), so in the end your posts will be good every time even if you spent less time on it. The same goes for learning a language.

    As for learning Kanji, I think it's good to start early, but keep it at a speed that's fitting for the rest of your progress.

    Nice pictures btw ^^
  • wow I can relate to so many points re learning and practicing Japanese in this post. I'll be getting a proper mic and installing Skype soon so i can find Japanese ppl to speak with. Thanks for that recommendation and good luck at your job!
  • I can completely relate to the blogging process you're describing there.

    I always want it to be perfect, ending up proscratinating in proof-reading, rewrites, etc.

    I will use the same method and try writing more :-)

    Thanks for the great read.
  • Nice post Chris, it sounds like you've had a few insights about blogging and life, and you're seeing the bigger picture. It's so easy to be paralysed with fear of imperfection, yet so many opportunities are missed while you struggle with it.

    You've actually reminded me of so much of the negative self talk I've subjected myself to over the years, and given me a bit of inspiration as well.

    In Oz we say "near enough is good enough", and we're often criticised for not caring enough about quality. But the flip side is ingenuity and real craft. Once you have that, and you can laugh at yourself and look back on your mistakes as learning experiences then real personal growth is possible.
  • Thanks for the comments everyone. Some really good advice here and I'm glad the article inspired one or two of you.
  • Found you through Japan_Blogs on Twitter and I've come back to this site again and again. I am as beginner as can be (well, three weeks) and my personal drive for learning the language is to watch Japanese films and shows that I love without English subs - and ideally be able to fluently talk to Japanese people about them.

    You've got some great links to help a newbie, and you're much more frank and honest about the difficulties than a lot of other bloggers. I always feel inadequate when people with freakish memories and huge self-confidence talk about how easily and quickly they became fluent. But a few posts in, it's obvious that genetic predisposition plays 99% into their abilities. Seeing you talk about how, regardless of the gruelling hours of study, your confidence is your biggest enemy - it's actually a huge relief for someone still boggling at the notion of learning kana and speaking it. There is a lot of embarrassment and mistakes in store, but you openly admit that and also point the way forward.

    I've known of quite a few people in America and Britain who claim to speak Japanese, but I've started to doubt how true this can be. They've probably picked up some phrases and expressions memetically from being so immersed in anime, manga, and JPop. Having studied a few languages before, this approach is rife with setting up mistakes about grammar and syntax that only get harder to correct the longer they carry on. I'd rather know what I'm absorbing rather than parroting sentences based mostly on phonetics.

    Keep up the good work, it's a huge help!
  • Hi Katie, thanks so much for your comment! It's a real motivation to know that people are finding what I write helpful.

    I agree there are some who claim they know Japanese, when in fact they still have a way to go. Take for instance the RTK book that teaches you to write and read (in english) 2042 kanji. When finishing it people claim they now know the kanji, but in fact they still have a long way to go to learn the on/kun readings. Still, RTK is a great start to learning Japanese, but can be misleading for many beginners.
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