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Learning Japanese, avoiding the burnout and keeping it fun

Wed, Aug 13, 2008

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Learning Japanese, avoiding the burnout and keeping it fun

This is a long-ass article… I wrote it mostly for myself, so I can look back and see what I was thinking and doing when I was learning. If it helps you in any way or you think I’m talking rubbish I’d love to know!

I have a confession to make…

I’ve hardly practiced any Japanese these last few weeks. I went away for training with work, missed a few days practice and never got back into a routine. I was already behind on my written work for my Japanese tutor. I’m now faced with a massive amount of cards in my SRS and I’m also way behind on my written homework for my tutor.

I’d say to myself “Ok, tomorrow I will do a whole load of practice and get back into a routine”.

Tomorrow comes and goes. I did this for 2 weeks without getting anywhere. Then I read an article at Feed Me Japanese that made me realise I couldn’t face doing it because it wasn’t fun anymore! It had turned into a chore! I had promised myself at the start that I wouldn’t let it turn out like that.

Where had I gone wrong?!

I started out with the aim of learning Japanese through immersion. I wanted to learn like a child would learn, surrounded by Japanese and absorbing everything like a sponge.

I would use this method alongside the traditional study methods of adults. It started out well, but I gradually got into a bad routine. I’d run through my SRS/flashcards without much care, collecting new words and phrases like they were Pokemon, never using them outside of the SRS. I was listening to the same 5 podcasts over and over because I hadn’t mastered every word or sentence. I felt I didn’t have time to sit and watch a Japanese drama or anime episode because I had more important things to do like writing the same sentences out over and over. I ended up doing the one thing I promised myself I wouldn’t do; learning by repetition and drilling the words into my head.

Mmmm orange crayons...After sitting down and thinking about it I realised that the Japanese I had memorised was reinforced by strong memories. I can remember すきだよ (I like you) because there’s a certain person I like. I can remember 日本 (Japan) because I see it every day on my textbooks or online. Ok, so I don’t know the full definition of 本 yet, but do I need to? I can worry about it meaning “counter for long cylindrical things” when I come across an occasion where I need to count long cylindrical things. When this time comes I will think “What’s the counter for long cyclindrical things?”, look it up online or ask someone and BAM! I associate 本 not just with 日本 (Japan), but also counting how many crayons that toddler just ate. That memory will stay with me and so will the definition.

Making mistakes with Japanese helps you remember it, probably more than getting it right the first time.

On my trip to Japan in May I was pathetic at using the little Japanese I know. I would mumble most things, quiet enough so maybe it wasn’t heard. This was in fear of making a mistake, but in fact mumbling it is far worse than saying it wrong. It sounded like I wasn’t trying.

So I’ve started saying the first answer that comes to my head.

Since doing this I’ve found that a good percentage of the time I’m actually correct or at least on the right tracks. I still make mistakes. Usually someone is willing to help and point out my error. The best mistakes are either funny or embarrasing enough that you could never forget them. Whichever it is, you’ll not make the same mistake twice.

With all of this in mind I decided to take a look at how I started learning, where I am now and where I want to be.

How I started learning Japanese

Training wheelsFirst off I learnt the kana by playing Hiragana Drag-n-Drop, Katakana Drag-n-Drop and using an SRS (Anki). This worked really well. If you can read and write using kana you can begin to communicate in Japanese. When I heard a Japanese word I would picture it in my mind as kana symbols, rather than romaji (english characters). It’s a great feeling when you can read kana!

I made a few friends online, but I can’t even string a decent sentence together in Japanese yet so I was only repeating the basic greetings and the rest of our conversations were in English. It was better than nothing though. The fact I repeated the greetings often is why I remember them so easily.

I listenined to podcasts, radio and j-rock music. I could recognise only a few words but just hearing Japanese regularly helped me get a grip on how to pronounce new words.

I watched doramas and anime, but not very often.

My current state of learning

Locked BikeI started learning the kanji with Heisigs book “Remembering the Kanji”. This was going well until my burnout. I’ve now pretty much forgotten all of the kanji I learnt except the ones I have a strong memory tied to.

I never got past using basic greetings with my friends and we still only talk in English.

I’m still listening to music but I stopped listening to my podcasts because I was repeating the same ones over and over in an attempt to master them before moving on.

I’m watching even less anime and no doramas at all.

I’m now meeting a private tutor once a week in a cafe for 2 hours. We’re going through “Japanese for Busy People” which I find a bit dull, but at least I’m getting practice with a native speaker.

My new approach to Japanese

BMX JumpI’m going to keep reading Heisigs book but I’m no longer going to use an SRS. I’ll keep using it and referring to it but I won’t try and drill anything into my head with flashcards. I want to remember the kanji via my own memories rather than using stories.

I’ll speak much more Japanese with my friends. Also I was lucky enough to meet my girlfriend in Tokyo in May and she’s willing to put up with my poor Japanese. She speaks excellent English, but she knows how much I want to learn the language so we’re going to speak Japanese as much as we can together.

Lang-8 here I come! I’ve decided to start writing a diary entry once a week in Japanese. It might just be one line if that’s all I can manage, but I have to start somewhere. I’ll post it straight to this blog as well as Lang-8. Hopefully someone will correct me if I get something wrong. I’ll also hand write the entry so I get writing practice and my private tutor can mark my work. Koichi has a good review of Lang-8 on his blog.

Operation “shock the tutor” is now in effect. I’ll try and learn a new phrase, such as a greeting or a question and use it when I meet my tutor. We usually have a little discussion about our week so I will try and do this in Japanese rather than English.

I’ll be twitterin’ and plurkin’ little things in Japanese. Just the other day I said I was tired in Japanese and someone responded in Japanese. That was a great feeling. I had to look up the meaning of what they said, but that’s why twitter is so good. I don’t need to reply instantly, so I have the time to work on a response if one is needed.

I’m not going to worry about mastering everything. I’ll listen to the Japanesepod101.com beginner, intermediate and advanced lessons. I might not understand the more difficult lessons but I think it’s best to push myself. I can’t expect to progress far if I’m always sticking to the beginner comfort zone. I’ll make sure I don’t spend too long on the same lesson but I also have to make sure I’m paying full attention to each one. So I will put aside some quiet podcast time.

A large serving of doramas, anime and films. Hold the english subtitles. I’ll pick out a few words or sentences from memorable scenes, write them down and I might even post about it on the blog. English subtitles are no help at all so I’ll be turning them off.

Having fun and being spontaneous. If I want to respond to someone in Japanese I’ll use the first thought I have rather than doubt myself. I might get it wrong, someone might tell me I’m an idiot or laugh at me. I’ll soon remember the right answer. I usually laugh at myself anyway.

..and that’s how I plan to beat burnout and procrastination

I’m not under a strict regime of learning 10 kanji a day. I don’t have the pressure of an SRS deck to keep up to date. I can learn it however much or little I want. The thing is that because I’m making it fun I will probably practice it even more than before without even realising it. If I want to spend a day watching anime then I can. If I want to have a day off then I can. If I want to walk around the house in my underpants singing “Mafuyu no Hikari” by The Back Horn then, by god, I can.

I’m going to enjoy Japanese. I’ll have fun with it, make mistakes, associate those memories with words and learn it. I don’t know if this will work. I’ll come back and tell you how I got on or you can follow my blog via rss. Maybe I’ll write up my final conclusion in Japanese so you’ll have to learn it to understand that I in fact haven’t learnt Japanese and I just copied and pasted the latest news headlines from Mainichi Daily News. Either way, one of us might learn Japanese.

Photo sources: Danny Choo, sean dreilinger, killermonkeys, random dude, jon hanson

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25 Comments For This Post

  1. Koichi Says:

    Good luck with your new approach! It’s nice to do something fresh every once in a while. I really like Lang-8, but ONLY doing lang-8 gets dry after a while - that’s why my Lang-8 diary entries are actually rough drafts of posts for my blog that’s in Japanese (koichiben). Writing for an audience really bumps up the pressure to learn new things and become better at the language. Lang-8 is the first step, but it only gets better!

    Hope you keep up the new strategy! Sounds very similar to my own, in a lot of ways.

    P.S. Thanks for the link too~

  2. Chris Says:

    Thanks Koichi :)

    That’s one of the reasons I started this blog. The pressure to keep the site fresh with new content pushes me to keep learning new things.

  3. xorsyst Says:

    Great post Chris. You have introduced me to Lang-8 and Anki. I admit that I too go through my really motivating periods that don’t seem to last long. I’m going to take your advice and really try the immersion technique. Good luck this time around.

  4. Jordan Says:

    Hey Chris, welcome back! You are not alone. I am right there with you working on my Japanese and trying to maintain a nice steady pace. Keep up the good work!

  5. Chris Says:

    Thanks xorsyst. I think Anki is good, but I found after learning the kana it got me into some bad habits of just revising, rather than using Japanese. It’s worked well for others though.

    Good luck with the immersion. It’s good fun :)

  6. Chris Says:

    Hey Jordan, when/if I move to Tokyo we can celebrate our success with a beer and a shout of かんぱい! ;)

  7. Jordan Says:

    You can do it, buddy! I’ll be waiting for you!

  8. Nick Ramsay Says:

    Love the photos, Chris. Dumb question, but what’s an SRS? You can tell I haven’t studied for years.

  9. Chris Says:

    Nick, SRS means Spaced Repetition System. I’d try and explain it but Wikipedia does a far better job:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_repetition
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anki

  10. Khalid Says:

    Inspiring story, Chris! Thanks so much for sharing!

    You reminded me of a great quote by the poet Yeats. It goes something like:

    “Education is not the filling of a bucket but the lighting of a fire.”

    I look forward to hearing more about how you keep those fires lit ;-)

  11. Chris Says:

    Cheers Khalid, that’s a great quote. Also thanks for writing the article. I may still be stuck with burnout if I hadn’t of read it :)

  12. x i x i Says:

    This could be applied to learning any new language–great article!

    I know that I’ve been procrastinating A LOT regarding my own language learning–prepping for French for the new school year; sparse usage of Japanese on the side for fun… so this article was a really nice reminder of “just do it”… for me, and if it’s fun (French…), that’s a bonus. XD

    好運を祈ります!:D

  13. billywest Says:

    Stick with it and make sure most of the studying you’re doing is the fun kind. If most of it seems like a chore, you’re gonna burn out.

  14. Chris Says:

    Thanks x i x i and I see you guessed that it was you I was talking about when I mentioned a response from someone on Twitter ;)

    ありがとう!

  15. Joe Says:

    hi, great story! i learnt 本 just the other day, it means root or origin. so japan means sun-origin, which is “The land of the rising sun”. this was concocted by the Chinese, form their perspective the sun rose from japan.

    just thought i’d let you know that interesting fact :D i thought it was pretty cool!

  16. Chris Says:

    Hi Joe, strangely I’d never considered why it was called “The land of the rising sun”, now I know! Thanks :)

  17. Daniel Says:

    I’ve been going through JapanesePod101 lessons for about 2 years now, during my drive to/from work, and before sleep. I’ve listened to the Newbie and Beginner series more times than I can count. While I don’t think I’m improving, I must be because I decided to try out the Lower Intermediate lessons. For the first dozen or so, I didn’t have much trouble and then I hit the wall where I can’t understand at full speed, but can pick up quite a bit at the slower speed. I’m determined to go through them all as a way of pushing myself.

    At one point, I created a mixi account (which is still active) to see whether that would push me to write something regularly. I posted a couple of entries, nothing of important. Perhaps I’ll pick it up again.

  18. Chris Says:

    Hi Daniel, thanks for the insight into your learning. I’ve not yet fitted JapanesePod101 into my day but I’m doing more than I did last week, so I’m getting somewhere!

    I’ll have to take a look at Mixi. I highly recommend Lang-8. I’ve had a few responses to my first Journal entry and just replying to these people is really good practice and fun!

  19. Doug Proudman Says:

    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for this article. It feels good knowing that others are going through the same drama of learning this language. I wish it were easier for everyone, but apparently it takes some effort… Right now I’m about as burned out as can be (like Skid Row burned out) and have been looking for ways to make my studies more fun. Any other ideas??

    Anyway, thanks for the article.

    Peace out,
    Doug

  20. Chris Says:

    Hi Doug,

    I suggest taking a break, forget that you need to learn Japanese. Do some things you enjoy. After a while sit down and brainstorm the things you can do to learn Japanese. Circle a few that you think are fun or you won’t get bored of and then try and incorporate them into your day. I’m finding that mixing it up and keeping it random helps to stop myself getting burnt out. So I try not to keep too much of a rigid routine. That’s basically what I did for this article and it helped me a lot.

    Making penfriends was one of the best things I did. It’s much more fun learning from a person than learning from a book. Make sure you push yourself to write Japanese though. I often found myself having whole conversations in English, which wasn’t very helpful.

    That’s all I can suggest as it’s different for each person, but I hope you find the thing that reignites your desire to learn.

    I’m now looking at Japanese as something I will pick up over time, rather than something I need to study and get right. When I get stuck, only then will I study the subject. It feels like there’s a lot less pressure to succeed and I’m having a lot more fun with it.

    Good luck :)

  21. Daniel Says:

    I followed your suggestion and created a Lang-8 account. Posted something simple and within a few hours 2 people had commented, one of whom corrected a grammar issue. I’ll try not to worry about being 100% correct otherwise I’ll spend too much time upfront making it perfect.

    The podcasts were easy to fit into my daily life — I have a 20 minute car ride to work, which suits the lesson length. It doesn’t really feel like I am “working” at learning. The “characters” on the podcast are quite entertaining.

  22. Mike Says:

    Hi Chris,

    In a few weeks I will start studying Japanese at my university. I actually work there too so I get free tuition! Anyway I can’t wait to get started… again!!!

  23. Chris Says:

    Nice one Daniel :) Let me know if you find any new resources for learning. I’m always looking at trying something new.

  24. Chris Says:

    Hi Mike. Free tuition! Nice!
    I wish there were more courses here in the UK. It’s either a uni degree or nothing. Luckily there’s a local private tutor nearby.

  25. Kekoa Says:

    I stumbled across this post and I must say I’m glad I did. Its good to hear that someone had the same experience that I did and that they have figured out a way to move forward.

    I was recently burned out as well but now I think its time to try and pick it up again. And this time make it fun.

    Good Luck to you.

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